Charlie Dreifus Talks Winning by Losing Less on WealthTrack—Royce
article 02-08-2021

Charlie Dreifus Talks Winning by Losing Less on WealthTrack

PM Charlie Dreifus was a guest on Consuelo Mack WealthTrack discussing how he positions his portfolio to beat bear markets.


PM Charlie Dreifus was recently a guest on Consuelo Mack WealthTrack discussing how purchasing absolute value companies helps Royce Special Equity Fund in bear markets.

Watch Charlie’s appearance here.

Charlie explained that he looks at the cap rate, or the return he would earn if he bought a whole business, and compares it against the junk bond yield when looking for absolute value companies. “I’m looking for the convergence of economic logic, accounting logic, and capitalistic logic,” he said. “So it’s as simple as saying, ‘would I buy the entire business? Would I have a positive return?’” Charlie said that this process, along with purchasing investments with less volatility, helps his portfolio lose less on the downside.

He also explained how his portfolio is concentrated with 36 names, meaning he has “high convictions” in the names he buys.

Watch Charlie’s appearance here.

Learn more about Charlie Dreifus here.

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Average Annual Total Returns as of 12/31/20 (%) 

Special Equity 16.43 7.43 2.93 9.24 7.49 7.68 9.88 8.57 05/01/98
Russell 2000 Value 33.36 4.63 3.72 9.65 8.66 6.92 8.54 7.65 N/A
Russell 2000 31.37 19.96 10.25 13.26 11.20 8.91 8.74 7.82 N/A

Annual Operating Expenses: 1.21

1 Not annualized.

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Percentage of Fund Holdings As of 12/31/2020 (%)

  Royce Special
Equity Fund

Sears Roebuck


Eastman Kodak






Burroughs Corporation


Johnson & Johnson


Triple M




Standard Motor Products, Inc.


iShares Core Dividend Growth ETF


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