Charlie Dreifus On WealthTrack: Discussing Absolute Value In Small-Cap Stocks
article 08-06-2018

Charlie Dreifus On WealthTrack: Discussing Absolute Value In Small-Cap Stocks

In an exclusive interview with Consuelo Mack WealthTrack, Charlie Dreifus talks about why value has been lagging growth.


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On August 3, 2018 Charlie Dreifus was a guest on Consuelo Mack WealthTrack.

In the interview, Charlie discussed a wide range of topics, including why value has been badly lagging growth. He went on to detail what he calls “absolute value,” which is when earnings are substantially higher than the interest costs for money borrowed to buy a company.

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He and Consuelo also covered Charlie’s definition of value stocks, which he says is buying a company at a discount and having confidence in the stability and sustainability of its earnings. When discussing why value has been lagging growth, he cited the Financial Crisis and absence of growth in the economy.

Consuelo also asked if there has been a period similar to this, when the intrinsic value of a company doesn’t seem to matter, in Charlie’s 50 years of managing money, and he said the most recent example was the tech bubble. As for advice he would offer, he recommends de-risking during this stage of the market.

Charlie Dreifus joined Royce in 1998 and previously was a General Partner and Managing Director and a Limited Managing Director of Lazard Freres & Co., LLC. He was also the Portfolio Manager of Lazard Special Equity Portfolio, formerly Lazard Special Equity Fund and Special Equity separate accounts. He was also formerly employed by Oppenheimer & Co. as a Limited Partner and as the manager of Quest For Value Fund (from May 1980 to November 1982) and by Oppenheimer Capital as an Executive Vice President. He holds a bachelor's degree from the City College of New York/Baruch School and a Masters of Business Administration from Baruch College. He is the lead portfolio manager for Royce Special Equity Fund and Royce Special Equity Mutual-Cap Fund.

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